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Title: RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS
Post by: Roger Boswarva on May 19, 2023, 09:02:07 AM
RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS

I had a wonderful chat with Julian this morning. It covered issues I think many others could benefit from knowing.

As you know, we have our “Pillars of Spiritual Power.” Originally it was “Five,” but as we progressed, the list expanded.

Pillars of Spiritual Power:
   LOVE
   KNOWLEDGE
   TRUTH
   ALIGNMENT—RELATIONSHIPS
   INTEGRITY (WHOLENESS/COMPLETENESS)
That’s the original five, then were added:
   CREATION
   AWARENESS

Further, as time progressed, Alan revised the list by using different words to express the concepts of some of the words above:

1.   LOVE = DEFINITIONS & MOOD SCALE

2.   TRUTH = DEFINITIONS & PROJECTIONS, FUSIONS, AGREEMENT, REALITY

3.   RELATIONSHIPS = DEFINITIONS & COMMUNICATION SCALE, COACHING, PROCESSING, CO-CREATING

4.   KNOWLEDGE = DEFINITIONS & LEVELS OF EXISTENCE SCALE, ZONES, STUDY, QUALITY OF APPLICATION, LITERACY

5.   CYCLES & OUTCOMES = DEFINITIONS & SCALES OF CONTROL CYCLES, CYCLE OF SUCCESS, CYCLE OF LIFE, CYCLE OF PRODUCTS, END PRODUCTS, CONSEQUENCES, EFFECTS.

6.   RECIPROCATIONS = DEFINITIONS & SCALES OF SOMETHING OF VALUE OR QUALITY PRODUCT TO EXCHANGE, VALUES FOR VALUES, PROSPERITY

7.   SOVEREIGNTY = DEFINITIONS & SCALES OF OWNERSHIP OF SELF, OWN TIME, OWN SPACE, OWN ENERGY, OWN OBJECTS, WHOLENESS, INTEGRITY, HAPPINESS.

The chat with Julian got into how best to implement and practice these faculties.

Julian has had the ability to reach to and communicate to others on a spiritual basis all his life, and this is what we got into chatting about, and why the above Pillars of Power came up.
One of the points that came up was that most folks, when they choose to relate to others, they typically do so as an effort to cause upon the other . . . this on an unwitting automatic, involuntary replication (I-R) basis.

Many, of course, are so at effect of what they are relating to in their existing state that resisting true and correct apperception of what is there to be perceived is their I-R. They block what they should perceive.

Folks are typically rather stuck one or the other of these Life-Force vectors: the outflow-cause-upon, or the inflow-effect of.

What is not practiced is the RECIPROCATION of the Pillars of Power noted above.

Julian and I were also chatting about how best to influence our environments and the Beings in them.

Personally, I find it easiest when I permeate the Being and perceive exactly what they are doing and projecting into their environment and in particular, on what basis, what are they solving, handling and the precept or belief their actions are all based on. And it is that solution-cum-precept I target (psychically) with the proper process for elimination.

Trying to block the effect they guy is trying to create on me and his environment just produces a “ridge,” I have learned. But undoing the I-R he is being caused to empower works wonderfully.

And there is a key datum, a fact of reality, that you can all benefit from knowing and practicing . . .

And that is: WE ARE EACH INFINITE SPIRITUAL PRESENCES. This our native highest state of being, and why it was we were able to be “at and as one,” in unity in the earlier SUPREME BEINGS UNIVERSE (The Heavens).

So, the point to be made here is that when you relate with others, you can do it on the humanoid basis of a rectilinear basis with them “there” at a direct straight line across space in front of you or, more perfectly, do so by expanding to your true infinite presence and have the other Being embraced within your infinite Presence (to be noted is that the properly trained and aware Beings love that level of union and respond positively).

In actuality, this is the basis of Alan’s statement that: “All of the universes are WITHIN YOU.”

Let’s be real, where else would or could they or anything else be if you are operating as the infinite presence that is the true basic you.

Rog


Title: Re: RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS
Post by: JulianB on May 20, 2023, 10:52:34 AM
What you have outlined in your O/P( and our chat) makes a lot of a sense and explains the why and how expanding and maintaining our oneness with others somethings becomes unhinged and obscured.

As soon as time permits, I will study these "Pillars of Spiritual Power" in greater detail, starting with using Clean Slate on all the definitions and well, that usually brings more "stuff" to be handled.

As always, after we chat via e-mail or Zoom, I feel that I come away with more knowledge of our true existence, that of an Infinite Spiritual Presence and a means to a progress. I am grateful for your communication and appreciate your help and advise.
Title: Re: RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS
Post by: Jorge S. on August 22, 2023, 11:28:45 AM
Thanks Roger and Julian.

Let me know if I understand what we have here:

The constant practice of the Presence 1 Procedure, VF1 steps 1 to 10, the Expanded Comm-Formula, adding what Roger suggests that I understand as finding, knowing and handling the precept from where the other is operating (brilliant!), cause the vanishing of creating charge or ridges by non resisting what the other is made to cause by their IRs, and it´s a winning formula to implement and reciprocate the Pillars of Power!

Title: Re: RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS
Post by: Roger Boswarva on August 23, 2023, 09:47:02 AM
Jorge, you have it and have articulated the truths of it nicely and succinctly.

Rog
Title: Re: RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS
Post by: JulianB on August 28, 2023, 10:14:00 AM
Hi Jorge.
I found this very useful.

PRESENCE
-- by Alan C. Walter --

A Glossary is available when needed.
Of all the words and subjects a Being must master to recover full potential, no word or subject is more important than PRESENCE.
Everything in your universe -- your levels of existences, levels of truth, levels of love, levels of success, levels of prosperity, levels of happiness, levels of honesty, levels of integrity, operation of your Codes, Virtues and Principles - past - present - future - depends for its power on your PRESENCE.

Yet few, if any have truly understood the vast scope and power of this word and subject.

For the word PRESENCE describes YOU NOW.

The scope of the NOWNESS of a Being can be vast or it can be insignificant. It can span the spectrum of ALL past - present - and future, or it can be just a dot in time.

PRESENCE can best be described as how you appear and operate in the now or present time. Your present time HERENESS.

Dictionaries fail to adequately define fully the scope of PRESENCE and HERE. But at least they give a starting point.

The Merriam Webster Dictionary gives the following definitions.

PRESENCE: ['pre-z(n(t)s] noun

1: The fact or condition of being present.

2a: The part of space within one's immediate vicinity. b: The neighborhood of one of superior especially royal rank.

3 archaic: COMPANY

4: One that is present, as. a: The actual person or thing that is present. b: Something present of a visible or concrete nature.

5a: The bearing, carriage, or air of a person; especially, stately or distinguished bearing. b: A quality of poise and effectiveness that enables a performer to achieve a close relationship with his audience.

6: Something (as a spirit) felt or believed to be present.

HERE: ['hir] adverb

1a: In or at this place. Turn here. — often used interjectionally especially in answering a roll call. b: NOW. Here it's morning already. c: In an arbitrary location. A book here, a paper there.

2: At or in this point, particular, or case. Here we agree.

3: In the present life or state.

4: HITHER. Come here.

5: — used interjectionally in rebuke or encouragement. Here goes — used interjectionally to express resolution or resignation especially at the beginning of a difficult or unpleasant undertaking. - neither here nor there. Having no interest or relevance. Of no consequence. Comfort is neither here nor there to a real sailor.

FULL PRESENCE

The state and ability to be at FULL PRESENCE contain many natural attributes. These attributes are the pure, unadulterated native to the Being's qualities.

A fully present Being:

Naturally emanates LOVE.
Naturally emanates TRUTH.

Naturally emanates WISDOM.

Naturally emanates KNOWINGNESS.

Naturally emanates TRUST.

Naturally emanates INTEGRITY.

Naturally emanates WARMTH.

Naturally emanates HONESTY.

Naturally emanates HONOR.

Naturally emanates A GRANTING OF BEINGNESS TO OTHERS.

Naturally emanates A WILLINGNESS TO BE IN COMMUNICATION.

Naturally emanates POWER.

Naturally emanates HUGE QUANTITIES OF FREE LIFE FORCE PARTICLES.

Naturally emanates RESPONSIBILITY.

Naturally emanates PURITY.

Naturally emanates ADMIRATION.

Naturally emanates RESPECT.

Naturally emanates SOVEREIGNTY.

Naturally emanates A PERMEATION.

Naturally emanates A WILLINGNESS TO SPAN AND PERMEATE FULLY THE SPECTRUMS OF ALL EXISTENCES.

Underneath all of the charge, lies, force, mass, shocks, confusion, stupidity, unknowns, blackness, chronic mood levels which causes a Being to not be present, sits a Being of immense natural qualities.

Each of these attributes are of vast proportions. The purpose of training and processing is to restore these natural attributes by gradiently restoring more and more areas of a Being's ability to operate higher and higher in the Zones of life, until the Being is more and more fully itself.

This is achieved by removing those unknown, charged creations and counter-creations that have distanced the Being from the use, control or ownership of these natural innate phenomena.

The end product of the training and processing being: A BEING WHO HAS RECOVERED AND CAN OPERATE WITH A FULL PRESENCE.

All drills or exercises must have the PRESENCE definition fully defined, making sure ALL words are fully defined. As with all definitions and knowledge, it must be accompanied with the ability to apply. For anything less than the full scope of what PRESENCE truly is will cause a degrade of the technology and yourself.

ALAN C. WALTER
30 March 1997 / Copyright © 1997
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

source:
https://web.archive.org/web/19980705012126/http://www.knowledgism.com/presenc1.html
Title: Re: RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS
Post by: Roger Boswarva on August 29, 2023, 05:59:36 AM
Brilliant post, Julian . . .

Thanks . . .

Rog
Title: Re: RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS
Post by: Jorge S. on August 29, 2023, 08:44:52 AM
Thanks @JulianB !

Yes!!! Indeed with this bulletin I got conceptually what a Spiritual Prescence and our true nature is, and this with the definition of "You" and Power Split I got my monitor when I be as huge as a real Me or otherwise, a dotted or artificial or disguised being. I must confess I had a lot of negative precepts and misunderstood terms at first read and I couldn't get it. It contains very powerful words that one can not just pass as "understood" and the end phenomena of understanding this truths are really many CIs !!!

Jorge
Title: Re: RELATING TO AND WITH OTHERS
Post by: Christian on August 29, 2023, 11:34:40 AM
It's really a great bulletin.
I've read it few years ago and it only grows in power and relevance.

It's so basic in its essence but goes deeper and deeper the more we practice and appreciate its meaning more fully.

Good data for new people and a good reminder along the way!

Thank you.

Christian