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THE TRAPS WE HAVE PUT OURSELVES IN


THE TRAPS WE HAVE PUT OURSELVES IN
 
Automatic “effects inflow” that had stuck me with difficulty trying to cause and outflow.
 
Mechanics of operation that allowed only a limited part of my capacity to operate or cause effects and impinge my visions onto or into the (or any) “universe” I was connected to.
 
These mechanics that have been operating on automatic involuntary replication have simply blocked my ability, capacity and power to perform.
 
I had quite simply withdrawn into “here” within myself away from “the there” where I had earlier affected the outcomes of my desires and intentions.
 
The result has been a stuck-point-presence that is the epitome of being “dotted.” This because the condition was the result of the counter-flow, counter concept, of me being effect that countered my ability to cause.
 
The above is a quick write-up of points I spotted during and following my session this morning.  It is a work in progress and will be added to . . . but decided it might just spark some insights for you clever guys, and that it should not be withheld.

So please add any insights you come to.


The whole issue of the stuck-flow, stasis condition that is a huge case manifestation that needs undoing is one I am currently uncovering the secrets of.

Rog
 
 
 




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Today I had a monstrous experiential cognition of a really HUGE trap I had been holding myself in as and on an automatic involuntarily running basis . . .

I spotted that I had accepted the intent and envisioned condition projected by "another" (actually a team of others) and agreed to be and be effect of what they had projected onto me.


Two parts of this trap:
1) their projection,
2) My receiving and agreeing with it.

Both parts had to be spotted and undone.


And note, an important part of this new awareness and realization is that there were TWO PARTS of the stuck image, and each had to be spotted and processed.

The good news being that once I had spotted my agreeing to accept/receive and co-empower the image sent by the other presence, it was recognized as an error and unwanted, and it blew on inspection.  And, their image then simply ceased to continue to affect me as there was nothing holding it in place any longer!!  (They can keep their shit!  Though I know that my unlocking my end of it massively relieved them as well.)

Hence the realization is based on the in-depth understanding and application of our tech relating to the definition of REALITY!!!

I have enjoyed a fully holographic and conceptual understanding of the truth that "reality is the result of fused and 'realitified' envisioned (projected) imagery" for a very long time . . . but this morning I experienced it  and was able to apply it on a whole new, wonderful, level of powerful application.

Rog

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Reply #2
Really, really good and helpful, Roger.

#^G
Christian
"A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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WHERE IS IT?

As reported earlier, I am currently engaged in a course being delivered online by Rupert Sheldrake. Attendees are like us, regular folks wanting to learn things and thus also endeavoring to sort out what is what.

Of course, the whole thing is based on the Physical Sciences, even though Rupert is famous for proposing there is, or must be, “something” beyond the mechanical physical universe.

The trouble, in my view, is that nothing is proposed or put forward as to what it is, or might be, that is beyond and not of the physical universe. All that has been presented are examples occurrences of events that cannot be explained in physical or mechanical universe terms such as telepathy, remote viewing or the reporting that “dogs know when their owners are coming home.”

No statements or propositions are made as to “who or what” is engaging in telepathy, remote viewing, or what is the Life Source of the dog that perceives its owner is on the way home.

Of course this is a colossal omission that these folks don’t seem to notice . . . they only keep referring to the “unexplained phenomena.”

An example is this part of a chat exchange by “Strongtree” on July 16, 2022:

"my impression /experiences of scientific community is that they believe humans were the purpose of evolution...doesn't match this statement: "Nature is purposeless, and evolution has no goal or direction". And this statement "Minds are inside heads and are nothing but the activities of brains. When you look at a tree, the image of the tree you are seeing is not ‘out there’, where it seems to be, but inside your brain" also doesn't match my understanding of basic science. Materialism I thought was that the only reality was matter - and the brain was just generating a mental model to represent the actual world. Which is why our brain's prediction processes can be so fallible."

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So, for you guys on our Ascensionism Forum, this is the realization I had in addressing the above.

What is known and proven in medical and human physiological science, is that when we look at a tree, the image of the tree (the light reflected toward us) is focused by the lens in each of our eyes onto the retina where the photoreceptors convert it into electrical impulses (signals) which are then carried to the visual cortex in the brain which “interprets” the signals to form the picture we see.

So, the insight I had this morning in reading the comments on the Sheldrake Course site was a funny one: “Where is the tree, or the image of the tree, that you are looking at!?”

My insight was that it is in TWO LOCATIONS, and the big question is: which one, or is it both, that you are looking at? 

Are you “in your head” looking at the one in there? Or are you expanded out as the true spiritual presence you are, looking at and perceiving the tree “out there” where it is separate from your body; or are you doing a combination perception of the two energy forms (images) of the tree?

Having both delivered and received many hundreds of hours of our “objective type processes” such as SPIEPIR, I can vouch for the fact that clients routinely come to the realization of the fact  that they are perceiving the physical environment about them directly as a spiritual presence when they ascend to higher states of Being as a result of upgraded ability.

I have long known these choices were available, but it was not until this morning that I realized the full significance of it, and actually knowingly experienced the difference between the two at the same time.

Also, to be noted, the mechanical nature of the way lenses work results in the light signals received by the brain being inverted; but, clever Beings with clever “brains” that we are, we have somehow managed to not mess ourselves up when looking at the upside-down image in our head.

Of course, the other datum we have, and experientially know to be true is that, being Infinite Spiritual Presences; all of the existence of “what is” is actually within the infinity of our existence. And it is this basic infinity of existence that is native to us before we aberrated it that enabled us to be “at one,” in Unity, with all other Spiritual Presences.

Rog




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The nature of the Physical Universe is interesting.
Each species perceives the PU differently. And even members of same species have differing perceptions.

What I perceive with my main 5 senses (see, hear, smell, taste, touch) is different than what others perceive.
And not only the sense perceptics can go numb and deteriorate (like my eyesight, unfortunately), the quality and scope of my perception changes depending on my mood level!
The vibrancy of colors, the clarity, the spaciousness of space, the way a certain musical piece affects me, the heaviness and lightness of objects will change depending on my mood level.

The higher the mood level the easier it is for us to be in a good relationship with the PU.
Indeed, the higher the mood, the more we come to realize that the PU is within our existence. (Nothing big actually ;D )

Rupert Sheldrake has his "extended mind" theory. And it is good for people who are on the "humanoid, physical body only" level.
I have admiration for him and his work, but unfortunately too much theory and too little practice, no processing protocols. He is looking into phenomena but is missing the agency that is intimately involved and at the source point of the phenomena.
I wonder if it is because he just doesn't know better (knowingness blocked by current paradigms around him) or something else.

Best regards,
Christian


"A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Yes good write-up and question regarding Rupert, Christian.

I suspect that Rupert is simply sticking rigidly to the "scientific paradigm." The plus-point of that is that his "position" and propositions are defensible.

To be noted is that all "paradigms" and belief systems act as precepts though, and they block or alter perception of anything outside of their dictate.


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I suspect that Rupert is simply sticking rigidly to the "scientific paradigm." The plus-point of that is that his "position" and propositions are defensible.
Yes, I also suspect he was "chopped to acceptable size" when his TED talk was censored.  Too much trauma to bear for a delicate being like RS. He was questioning the current paradigm and comparing it to a religion ("scientism"). Maybe the experience triggered in him some earlier times of being burned at the stake...  :D

I believe it will take another few decades before scientists and science realizes the source/causation point of all that. I also believe that the convergence of science and spirituality will be driven forward by the spiritual community. There are many more spiritual practitioners than there are PhD's and at some point the critical mass (intensity) of insight will be reached and science won't be able to hold on to the limited (and limiting) paradigm(s).

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Christian
"A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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I was just now reading the latest "big think" and opinions of these guys who are on Rupert's course.

They are yapping on about the "promise" of AI (artificial intelligence in computers) being able to handle things for them, etc., etc.

This was my answer posted to them just now:

RogerBToday at 9:54 AM

Well, Fellas, I would say that "AI" is destined to fail, and worse, cause problems because "AI" and mechanistic approaches lack the VOLITION we spiritual Beings are endowed with. AI can only react based on pre-programmed "solutions" . . . and that is the problem with the human "subconscious mind" automatic reactions that cause us strife. Only an alive, attentive spiritual Presence can knowingly direct its awareness, perceive, analyze and create anew and afresh an answer that has not before been conceived of . . . that is the power of the volition that is part of the array of our spiritual powers and abilities.





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Linked below is Lecture 5 of the course being given by Rupert Sheldrake.

I found the information quite revealing in a remarkable way  . . . Rupert has an encyclopedia of a mind as you'll see when he is revealing the historical facts regarding the who, when, why and how of scientific thought and philosophy as it developed.

For me, I see lots of holes and erroneous think and opinion that has been developed and carried forward as "science," scientific "fact" and beliefs.

I will likely get to chewing this over with you later . . . but for now, you take a bite at it and see what you come up with.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cmyq2ac1yul8h4p/Session_5_%E2%80%94_Rupert_Sheldrake_The_Big_Questions_in_Science%5B1%5D.mkv?dl=0

Rupert Sheldrake, The Big Questions in Science

Rog




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Reply #9
Yeah, good Lecture.
What is interesting to me (what Rupert didn't talk about) the scientists were so suppressed by the Roman Catholic Church (Copernicus, Galilei as prime examples) that they begun to throw out the baby [spirituality] with the bathwater [religion].

Christian
"A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Yeah, good Lecture.
What is interesting to me (what Rupert didn't talk about) the scientists were so suppressed by the Roman Catholic Church (Copernicus, Galilei as prime examples) that they begun to throw out the baby [spirituality] with the bathwater [religion].

Christian
Yes.  My observation here was that Rupert is addressing the development of thought, opinion and attempts to advance science and its philosophy. 

We all know about the Church of Rome's crimes against truth and the advancement of knowledge.  Too few know of the historical development of "thought" in the face of that threat from the Church.

Rupert is in actuality a very devout, practicing Christian . . . on his 80th Birthday a couple of weeks ago he was honoured in St. Paul's Cathedral in London . . . a very high honour indeed.

The actual trouble for philosophers and scientists from the 17th century onward was that they dare not discuss or introduce new thought on the subject of spirituality and the truth of its place in existence . . . as Rupert mentioned: "they left that to the Church and themselves stuck to the physical universe" . . .

The result we see today is "Scientism" and the "man is mud" fixed view of things.

It is this issue of the truth of the part and place of spirituality in existence that the book I am in process of writing addresses.

Tragically, the science wonks can't use the words "spirit" or "spiritual ' . . .  they think it is more learned to mumble on about "consciousness" . . . yet when asked to define "consciousness" on test, I find they cannot.  This in the context of which meaning when it is used by them.  They are too glib and superficial.  Ditto, the word "mind" . . . they have it conflated with the/a causative spiritual presence.

And, by test, they get absolutely nasty when questioned on these scenarios.

It is also interesting to me to observe that for the last year I have regularly attended the weekly Monday discussion session . . . and of course I have routinely continued to make the point that we spiritual Beings as an existential part of existence have an array of powers, abilities, capacities and virtues that can be addressed with proven routines for their upgrade and empowered to be placed more under your knowing control.

Guess what?  In all that time, NOT ONE individual has asked: "What are those procedures and where can I/we get hold of them to either test or apply them.

The tragedy of these folks is that their prejudiced operating belief systems are such that they cannot conceive of having any volition or causation in the matter of their spiritual relationship with the physical/mechanical universe.

Quite amazing.

 

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Reply #11
Yes, yes and yes.


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This morning I was reading this piece on my Nexus Magazine feed:
https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/science-futures/amazon-s-new-invention-could-let-you-speak-to-the-dead-but-should-it/


And BOOM! I suddenly saw and experienced a major mechanism by which we humans have ensnared and entrapped ourselves. Or, put another way, we spiritual Beings have trapped and reduced ourselves down into our current human condition. 

For me, on spotting it, it was a major "mind blow" in a very good way.  Let's face it, getting rid of fixed aberrative conditions is a very good thing to do.

So, what was it I spotted? 

I observed and experienced the fact that to be seeking (wanting and intending) to be continually effect of and affected by an old experience or connection is to be locking oneself into a fixed condition.

Ummm, a pretty dumb thing to be doing to oneself I now see.

Rog

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