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Wins & Successes In Application / Re: Clearing the Identity of being "an Illegitimacy", an illegitimate being
Last post by Jorge S. -
Hi guys!

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I have made a huge breakthrough (thanks to Roger's masterful processing skills) in getting a stronger identity in place to be able to be a self employed independent businessman through processing weak, disempowering identities, in this case, the Illegimacy.
Anthony! Congratulations for your huge wins and your bravery! Please keep us updated  ;)


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That of course is not an identity or Beingness . . . that is an adjective describing it   :D
Roger, very useful information about how to identify an emerging identity that requires handling and optimization! I added it to my arsenal    (/O 



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The formula and sequence of process actions I used to get Anthony's recent gains is to get the client's understanding and perceptions of the "problem," difficulty or situation he has that he want to address and handle. . . . the question is simple: "What is the situation or difficulty/problem you have your attention on that you want handled?"

 Yess!!!   (K& 

 
 



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Wins & Successes In Application / Re: Clearing the Identity of being "an Illegitimacy", an illegitimate being
Last post by Roger Boswarva -
;D

YES, THE FORMULA AND RUNDOWN for getting these kinds of wonderful gains is to know that we Human Beings, being human, are being one or more identities.  And the identity that dominates their Present Time is running on automatic and involuntary replication of "data," computations, opinions or old solutions from the past.

And they can also be combinations of stupidities and/or negatives from the past.

The formula and sequence of process actions I used to get Anthony's recent gains is to get the client's understanding and perceptions of the "problem," difficulty or situation he has that he want to address and handle. . . . the question is simple: "What is the situation or difficulty/problem you have your attention on that you want handled?"

You write down what he answers, noting any that read on the meter with what the meter read was . . .
Don't make this complicated (as certain other practices do and have)  . . . . the "difficulty"/problem might not even read on the meter because it is SO charged, but it might slow or stick the needle then lead on into a slow rising resistance value. Very common for highly charged difficulties/problems is that the client will list of the problem/difficulty several times during this discovery phase as he tries to "get off" the charge and clarify his perception of the scenario.

Note this first step of my R/D is not to try and find the Identity/Beingness . . . it is to find/articulate the problem/difficulty or dramatization that is upsetting the client.

We ended up with Anthony voicing that he did not feel legitimate, he felt illegitimate/not legitimate.

That of course is not an identity or Beingness . . . that is an adjective describing it  :D

The next step in the handling is to run an L&N (Listing and Nulling Process) . . . though not always necessary as the client can be so into the thing that they spit it out.

But the L&N question we ventured was: "What Identity of Beingness would feel illegitimate?" (One could also try the question: "What identity or Beingness would dramatize not being legitimate?")

Now you see how we got to the identity, "An illegitimacy" . . .  which of course, gets handled with our wonderful Presence Three process.

This, of course, is life changing processing!!! It totally undoes that which is routinely ruining the lives of your friends, loved ones and clients.
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Wins & Successes In Application / Clearing the Identity of being "an Illegitimacy", an illegitimate being
Last post by knowledgeracer -
I discovered this Illegitimacy identity in a session with Roger. I was trying to figure out why I was having so much trouble being self-employed and making money as an independent businessman. It was quite hidden from me and required a bunch of looking at the topic of independent business exchange to find it. Finally we found it in session! It was feeling illegitimate. It was being an illegitimacy!  It was fear of being illegitimate.

Illegitimate:
Something that is unlawful or improper, unproven, not accepted by society as proper. prohibited by law or by official or accepted rules. Unauthorized, illegal.

When one feels illegitimate, one is in a very low place from which to exchange from. That's how I felt as a self-employed, independent businessman. I felt like there was something wrong with what I was doing.

Now legitimacy is very important in our society. People will frequently ask themselves and others if something is legitimate. This is often the litmus test of whether they will buy something or engage in an activity. For many people, natural healing is considered illegitimate and is attacked by the medical establishment as quackery (illegitimate) even though it is proven to work. Spiritual Empowerment work has issues in this area in society at large mainly because it threatens the establishment. 

My case contained a large chunk of charge on the issue of legitimacy versus illegitimacy. In past ages, being falsely accused of being illegitimate was quite dangerous. One could be labeled an enemy of the state, a heretic, a criminal and punished quite severely. Even today, natural doctors have been quite fiercely attacked. Medical doctors have lost their licenses to practice medicine. Businesses who get labeled illegitimate are either marginalized or go out of business.  New businessmen have a legitimacy issue they must work through. New practitioners delivering services must demonstrate legitimacy.

I have been super charged up on this legitimacy/illegitimacy issue and it was literally a blocker to my engaging in commerce. As we went through the Presence 3 rundown, I picked up all sorts of items around being legitimate and being an illegitimacy. What was interesting was I had avoided this legitimacy issue for most of my business career by working mostly at Fortune 500 technology companies. These were the most "legitimate" companies in my industry. No one would ever say to me, I've never heard of you (are you illegitimate?). Now as a wannabe entrepreneur/independent businessman, I was faced with this highly charged illegitimacy issue. For I was going against the norm and the rules by attempting to be self employed.

The session using the Presence 3 process ran out a lot of the charge I had been sitting in for centuries and millennia on illegitimacy.  I continued working on this item when I returned home with solo processing. Two new items came up in the process - being qualified and credibility. In exploring the area of legitimacy, people will want to know if you are qualified, what qualifications you and your company have and do you have credibility. These are, of course, real issues but if one has charge on the areas, it becomes hard to address them.

I have made a huge breakthrough (thanks to Roger's masterful processing skills) in getting a stronger identity in place to be able to be a self employed independent businessman through processing weak, disempowering identities, in this case, the Illegimacy.

Anthony
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Education, Case Notes and Advices / Communication Formula
Last post by Roger Boswarva -
The attached file is a diagram and narrative of the complete COMMUNICATION FORMULA listing all of the spiritual powers and abilities used when being effective.
This formula is what occurs in all forms and levels of communication, including telepathic spiritual communication.
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Other Useful Information / News From Rupert Sheldrake
Last post by Roger Boswarva -
As you regulars know, I am an acqaintance of Rupert's . . .

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[font="Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif]From Rupert Sheldrake
London, May 7, 2026
www.sheldrake.org
I am due to give a talk In London on Wednesday May 13 on “Holy Trinities” as part of the Alternatives programme at St James’ Church, Piccadilly. This will also be live-streamed. Details HERE
I’m currently looking for teachers or lecturers who might be interested in collaborating on some simple experiments with their students on joint attention. Can people detect when someone else is attending to the same object without using ordinary sensory cues? This can be tested as a short classroom activity with people working in pairs, or as part of an extra credit project, and offers students a chance to take part in hands-on research related to psychology and cognitive science. If this is something you might be open to exploring with your students, please get in touch with my research assistant Georgia Black at georgiablack.research@gmail.com
My latest dialogue with Mark Vernon is called “Making Sense of the Resurrection of the Body”. Many people report apparitions of their loved ones after death, and even of loved dogs and cats. But how are these after-death communications related to the Christian teaching of the resurrection of the body? The appearance of Jesus to the disciples and others is often taken as evidence of a physical revival of Jesus after his crucifixion, but a subtler, arguably more compelling interpretation is that after-death communications are relatively common - which is the experience the disciples had.
On my Substack there is a new essay on "Seven Ways in Which Minds Extend Beyond Brains” . There is also the latest episode in the Findings series, about another aspect of my botanical research called “How Dying Wood Cells Stimulate the Growth of Plants”.
In my book Ways to Go Beyond and Why They Work, the first chapter is on the spiritual side of sports. I recently carried out an online survey, asking “How often have you experienced a sense of transcendence, deep connection or altered awareness during intense physical activity (e.g. sports., dance, martial arts)?” A substantial majority – 71% – answered “often” or “sometimes” suggesting that transcendent experiences in connection with physical activities are indeed widespread, whether people think of them as spiritual or not.
In 2011, I gave a public lecture at Trinity College, Cambridge University on "The Evolution of Telepathy” at the end of my tenure as Director of the Perrott-Warrick Project. This has recently been released on YouTube in a newly illustrated version HERE

Rupert Sheldrake
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Education, Case Notes and Advices / Re: AN EXAMPLE OF WRONG TECH--WRONG THINK.
Last post by Christian -
Yes, Roger. Totally agree.

We can decipher and understand what the promo piece aims at, but it's still a wrong tech. Still operating as though within the hologram, as if you have a position in space and time and have to center or be centered within it.  ;D
Well, yes, we call it an Identity. The Identity has a position (where is it?) a time span (when is it, what's it's duration?) and a size (how big is it?). 
Even the questions from VF#1 that we use (Where are you?, How big are you?) ultimately result in a cognition that we are timeless and infinite and whatever we answer with a "number" is something other than the True Self, a limited substitute, a deviation, a disguise and a game. Not that games are bad, but they are only ever played by use of identities. 

Most of the technologies out there address either identities or games or some aspect of the components of a human being (body, mind, "energy", emotions). Adressing the Spiritual Being is a rare encounter. 

  [hat] 
Christian






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Education, Case Notes and Advices / Re: AN EXAMPLE OF WRONG TECH--WRONG THINK.
Last post by researcher -
Agree with you.... the question is worng as  "........when everything around you collapses?"means that something  is out control ,  unknown ( negative code ) and is  huge and bigger than .                                                                                                                Whereas the first part of the question "How do you hold your center ..." seems like you have to make effort to be stable , to avoid or negate the effect of the collapse .

Researcher 
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Education, Case Notes and Advices / Re: AN EXAMPLE OF WRONG TECH--WRONG THINK.
Last post by Jorge S. -
Hi Rog and guys!

"How do you hold your center when everything around you collapses?"

Yes. sounds like an order to dotting question, a negative process, I think it puts you in a position of "resist" or "evade", a better option could be: “How do you stay present, huge, connected and operational when a situation comes to you?”  ;D

And by te way, my answer is: "Running VF1 on me!"
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