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Technicality: control and command phrases

Hey everyone,

I wanted to share a technical observation I made today and a practical facilitation tip from a session I ran today.
While delivering a Mass Handling process, I stumbled upon a vital realization regarding how we query the charge on a client's case—specifically when standard verbal prompts seem to educe nothing.

Control/Command Phrases vs. Non-Verbal Control/Command Impulses
During the session, I asked the standard question:
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"Are there any control or command phrases in this mass?"
The client looked, paused, and said: "No. No phrases."

Usually, I would accept this at face value and move on. But I paused and thought to myself: Okay, there are no "phrases," but... A phrase is composed of words. But on the downward time trail, words are a very late development. Long before Beings formulated spoken language or written words, we operated on raw, non-verbal, spiritual concepts, vectors of force, and pure intentional impulses.

I acknowledged their answer and pivoted, bypassing the verbal level to target the raw spiritual phenomenon directly:
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"Connected to the mass, is there some kind of impulse in there intended to control or command you?"
The result was instant.
The client immediately began educing everything that was locked up in that mass, and went through a series of profound cognitions. Truth Phenomena came in. The mass instantly pulled back to a huge distance. While not completely dissipated yet, it was a massive win and an incredible release of trapped life-force particles.

We paused there to let the client cognite and realize just how long this mass had been silently running their life from behind the scenes.

There was another question in the process the client didn't have an answer to:
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"What are its intentions?"
Here also, the client had no answer. The question simply didn't produce any movement or data.
Why? Because an "intention" implies an active, personified identity or Beingness behind the mass. If the mass is perceived merely as a dense, unliving spiritual object, some clients have a hard time to attribute "intentions" to it.

I adjusted my approach and asked:
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"Does this Mass have or fulfill some kind of purpose?"
Bingo. The floodgates opened again. "Yadda, yadda, yadda..." followed by deep cognitions.

The Takeaway
Words are merely symbols and representations of observed phenomena or of spiritual concepts. When we are processing a client, we are working with layers of case that often pre-date verbal language.

If a client tells you there are no "phrases" or "intentions" in a mass, don't assume the mass has no purpose or is empty of control.

Would love to hear if any of you have made similar adjustments in your sessions!

Best regards,
Christian

Re: Technicality: control and command phrases

Reply #1
Hi mate!

Good win!   (K&  thanks for sharing!

Yes! Sometimes I haven't found words or phrases, but rather symbols or images, and then sometimes I also articulate them into a phrase for appropriate handling. I had never considered it as an impulse intended to control or command, but it sounds good so that both the client and I can fully understand the question when clearing it before processing, and thus be able to examine that part of the mass and completely vanish it.

The part about explaining an intention as a purpose that must be fulfilled also sounds very good for clearing the question and what it looks for. Another thing I like to look for in intentions or command phrases, besides unpleasant effects like "staying small," etc., after understanding what Roger taught us about "solutions," is how they can serve and function as a solution to avoid dealing with the initial problem, such as "making me not get out of bed all day so I don't have to go to work," etc.  ;D

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 YES!  Bloody brilliant!!!

This is particularly important with folks whose second language is English . . . they can tend to have a more restricted and precise definition and use of words (like Phrase) than a native English speaker.

And to be honest, I really never did see where the hell and why the hell Alan came up with the use of "Phrase" . . . it's a word I've personally used so very rarely, it actually feels aukward to me.

Case items like masses, pains, and old hung up solutions typically rest on are hung up on and energized by decisions, commands, intentions, forces, solutions, beliefs, precepts, wants, and such.

This also a demonstration of why it is important to check new clients on their understanding of the commands.

Big well done on this, Christian!!!

Rog

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Thank you, Roger!

One thing I like the most about processing another is that I actually get to see how the client "groks" the question (or not at all).

This mass was so huge that the client went absent (literally fell asleep into what we called "boil-off" in the earliest tech). I was hesitant to move on with the commands. Not sure if I should let them boil it off or ask the command. Eventually I gently asked the question again "What is its weight?" (it was this question that triggered it). 

Asking for the moods actually got it going again. Often it's the moods that keep the mass "glued" together from my observation. Very productive. And the duration question often causes an instant disentanglement with the "thing". There is the thing on the time trail and there is the being outside of time itself, as it were.  :D

But please tell me, what to do when the client runs into a boil-off? Sit back, patiently, and let it bleed out all by itself or gently nudge them through? 


@Jorge S.‍ yes I hear you. In this particular case the Mass was an "avoidance mechanism". Avoidance to take charge, be causative,  and some of the "phrases/impulses" went along the line of "don't you even dare". So, this mass, unhandled, caused a lot of trouble in a particular vital area of livingness. It's actually rather astonishing how a Mass like this goes unnoticed or not recognized as such. For most people it seems like "this is the way life is".
Also interesting, once I rephrased the question from "any control or command phrases" to the other one asking for impulses, the client first said what the impulse was and then following this came a bunch of actual phrases that would be representative of the impulse. 

Christian
"A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Christian asked

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But please tell me, what to do when the client runs into a boil-off? Sit back, patiently, and let it bleed out all by itself or gently nudge them through? 

The trick here is to always educe . . .

Basically there are dozens of questions you can ask . . . the trick is to develop your repertoire of patters.  

"What's going on there?
"Something changed in the mass, incident?
"Something new turned on?
"Is this yours, a Spiritual Teammate's or a Hidden Who's?
"Have we accessed an earlier similar, or basic, or basic to the chain of this mass/incident?

Note that both misownership, or switching incidents (starting on one and not realizing  you've accessed a new/different mass or Incident hence the new one is being run in a wrong time/location for it) will cause a beef-up and dope-off.

And, we do have the Correction Lists which check for all the possible whys things bog.

Rog



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#^G 

Thank you Roger!
"A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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From Christian:
I wanted to share a technical observation I made today and a practical facilitation tip from a session I ran today.
While delivering a Mass Handling process, I stumbled upon a vital realization regarding how we query the charge on a client's case—specifically when standard verbal prompts seem to educe nothing.

Control/Command Phrases vs. Non-Verbal Control/Command Impulses
During the session, I asked the standard question:
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"Are there any control or command phrases in this mass?"
The client looked, paused, and said: "No. No phrases."

Usually, I would accept this at face value and move on. But I paused and thought to myself: Okay, there are no "phrases," but... A phrase is composed of words. But on the downward time trail, words are a very late development. Long before Beings formulated spoken language or written words, we operated on raw, non-verbal, spiritual concepts, vectors of force, and pure intentional impulses.

I acknowledged their answer and pivoted, bypassing the verbal level to target the raw spiritual phenomenon directly:
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"Connected to the mass, is there some kind of impulse in there intended to control or command you?"
That is beautiful christian!
It is what I call processing at its best. It is the ideal style of processing as it is intuitive. It is having pure presence, it is being in communication with the person, the case etc., and permeating it lovingly with the correct intention that leads to the ideal result.

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Thank you, handsome.

The word you used, intuition, is an interesting word when we look at the etymology of it. Today it's somewhat obscured by different paradigms, but the original definition and etymology are right:

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INTUITION
Etymology
The word entered English in the late 15th century.
  • Latin origin: intuitio ("a looking at"), from the verb intueri ("to look at, consider, contemplate").
  • Intueri breaks down as:
    • in- ("into, at, upon")
    • tueri ("to look at, watch, guard, protect")
  • The literal sense was "knowledge obtained by looking within" or "immediate perception."
By the mid-17th century in English, it had acquired its modern meaning of non-rational, immediate understanding.

For me, when processing another, the most important aspect is to be there with and for them with full empathy. 
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EMPATHY
Etymology
The word empathy is relatively modern in English.
  • First appeared in English around 1909–1912.
  • Coined as a translation of the German word Einfühlung (“feeling into”), used in psychology and aesthetics by theorists like Theodor Lipps.
  • From Ancient Greek:
    • em- (variant of en-) = “in, within, into”
    • pathos = “feeling, emotion, suffering, passion”
Literal meaning: “feeling into” or “in-feeling.”
The Greek pathos is the same root found in:
  • Sympathy (“feeling together/with”)
  • Apopathy (“without feeling”)
  • Telepathy, etc.

What is really interesting is the fact that my processing of others improved through solo-processing. 
I wouldn't say it's intuition per se, though I understand that some would call it that. For me it is the direct experience of what is there. Therefore empathy is more fitting. Checking with the client by asking reveals the actuality of it -- the indicators and quality of truth phenomena that come in.

Then the data from this forum. Roger's famous "ditties" and many of his posts and interactions here are true gold nuggets for spiritual seekers.

Thank you for the compliment. Each winning session is a win for the processing client and the processor at the same time!
This session was wonderous as it opened the door to a full handling.
Next day I checked in with the client to read their write-up of cognitions after the session. What was unveiled is a Games Matrix the client is sitting in. The next day we ran Basic Chronic Mood as a mood manifested after the initial high after the first session. Handling this was even more productive and "send" the client right into an incident in the Evil Being Universe where we picked up the What it was, the solutions and consequences and also restored the prior setup of the Home Universe before the EBU incident happened. This last step brought about a new array of cognitions and the clients Dreams and Aspirations for life lit up like a firework. 
In other technologies this would be the end of the R/D, but there is still a lot of clean up to do (and the Games Matrix that was found needs to be fully processed). 

Best regards, 
Christian

"A man sees in the world what he carries in his heart."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

 

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