COMPARING OUR KNOWLEDGE TO THE PRESUMPTIONS AND THINK OF OTHERS

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COMPARING OUR KNOWLEDGE TO THE PRESUMPTIONS AND THINK OF OTHERS

March 25, 2023, 06:10:18 AM

DEAN RADIN, CHIEF SCIENTIST AT IONS
A NOTED GURU

This, at the moment is a test for you all!

I am posting this to give you a chance to exercise your analytical skills along with it being a test of your application of the knowledge you have learned as a Forum member.

The test is based on these question of you:

1) WHAT ARE THE ERRORS EXPRESSED BY DEAN IN HIS DISSERTATION?
2) WHAT IS OR ARE THE OMMITTED FACT(S) THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN HIS PITCH?

I ask these questions because knowing the correct answers will put you in charge of your future as an omni-sovereign Being.

My expectation is that, by you inspecting and comparing the “think” and level of ”knowledge” expressed by Dean to the knowledge and truths we have in our Forum, you will be empowered to operate at a higher level of certainty on these matters.

DEAN RADIN- A Bridge Between Science and Spirituality

https://www.dropbox.com/s/weogkl4d3nyop9l/Dean%20Radin-Brifge%20between%20Science%20-%20Spirituality.zip?dl=0

I WILL COMMENT AND GIVE YOU MY FINDINGS AFTER YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE AT THIS.

Rog

Re: COMPARING OUR KNOWLEDGE TO THE PRESUMPTIONS AND THINK OF OTHERS

Reply #1 – March 25, 2023, 01:31:08 PM

Hello Roger,

thank you again for sharing an interesting video with us.
I have watched another video with this man the other day. He is somewhat interesting as he tries to scientifically study phenomena that are not taken seriously in academic circles.
The video was this one here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY0XGtijebQ
I actually wanted to share it with you but the podcast host is talking too much about psychadelic drugs which is annoying.
However, in this video Dean Radin talks about the scientific approach he is using to arrive at conclusions (it's later in the video).

Now to your questions; my take:
One of the biggest flubs is the conflation of mind and (spiritual) agency.
This is very common but is one of the biggest blocks in operating at full capacity.
The mind can not intend nor attend. At best it can re-enact (involuntarily) or re-play (voluntarily) previously created solutions.

It's the spiritual agent who attends and intends and and the mind can be used as a reference mechanism and to draw "successful know how" from previously recorded experiences.

There is a need for them to actually align the components (Who or What is Man) in the correct hierarchy.

Another flub is the inflationary used term "consciousness".
It's en vogue to talk about consciousness but it's very conflated and used for too many phenomena.
I even think that it is this term that blocks their ability to properly line up the hierarchy of the components.
They are referring to way too many phenomena with this one term and it is no wonder they go blank and unconscious (pun intended) about it.
It would serve them more when they use several terms, and define them correctly.
Example: awareness.

Another thing that could be done to get them out of this confusion is to let them do a hierarchical model of the components and then demonstrate where consciousness fits in.

There is a non-local agency outside of the material universe. This much they got right. But this was known even in ancient times.
This agency has the ability to attend and unattend, reach & withdraw, intend, express and experience, create and uncreate, observe, focus, zoom in and zoom out.

In regards the healing on a "distance",
it depends what is there to be healed.
Of course the first step is to attend to whatever is there and find the right what.
Is it spiritual, mental, emotional, misaligned energies, a physical manifestation?
Someone could suffer the effects of projections of other spiritual agencies or otherwise in spiritual conflict (locked in "mortal" combat).
Most often more than one component is involved and I would always start the attendance with getting in touch with the being.

I had many instances of "healing". On a distance and close proximity.
Close proximity is best in my view.
The attendance factor is the biggest contributing factor from my perspective. Awareness, the pure Ministry of Presence can work wonders but if awareness is there and the willingness to see What is there and How it is there is the winner.
Of course the best setting would be: the person fully awake, in front of you willing to attend whatever is plaguing her/him.

Best regards,
Christian

Re: COMPARING OUR KNOWLEDGE TO THE PRESUMPTIONS AND THINK OF OTHERS

Reply #2 – April 02, 2023, 10:30:53 AM

I wrote above:

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In regards the healing on a "distance",
it depends what is there to be healed.
Of course the first step is to attend to whatever is there and find the right what.
Is it spiritual, mental, emotional, misaligned energies*, a physical manifestation?

The other day I stumbled upon this entry
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4654789/

And it turns out "The Science" started to investigate what they call "biofield" some time ago.
I was not aware of this. I thought it's still very "fringe" and not taken into consideration at all. So I was positively surprised.

Here is an excerpt:

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In addition to biochemical signals, the idea that living systems generate and respond to energy fields as integral aspects of physiological regulation reflects a convergence of several disparate paths. Numerous spiritual traditions describe modes and pathways of energy within and surrounding the physical body (Jain et al, 2015, this issue). Many complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) therapies utilize variants of “laying-on-of-hands” and other minimally invasive procedures to improve endogenous energy flows. Moreover, Western biomedicine routinely examines electrical fields from the heart (via electrocardiogram [ECG]) and brain (via electroencephalogram [EEG]) as indices of clinical pathology. Furthermore, contemporary cell biology and biophysics provide evidence that endogenous electromagnetic and other types of fields play active roles in development, tissue repair, and an array of homeodynamic processes

I'm looking forward to see what they will do with it in the future.

Christian

Re: COMPARING OUR KNOWLEDGE TO THE PRESUMPTIONS AND THINK OF OTHERS

Reply #3 – April 03, 2023, 05:41:45 AM

Good catch, Christian.

To be noted, of course, is that the section of the piece you cited (which might just represent the thinking of the whole piece) simply only simply only addresses effects . . . not who or what is the source of the observed and measured phenomena.

My grumble with the PhD types I interact with at both SMN and IONS is that they only ever run about counting up the instances of effects while studiously avoiding causation and the presence and nature of we the spiritual presence as source of the caused effects and outcomes.

Rog

Re: COMPARING OUR KNOWLEDGE TO THE PRESUMPTIONS AND THINK OF OTHERS

Reply #4 – April 03, 2023, 07:41:10 AM

Yes, totally agree Roger!

Christian